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Sara Hackman 10-25-2019 08:00 PM

Buying used 2011 Cayenne S for $21K. How much maintenance
 
only 65k miles. clean car fax but the carfax only show history records for past a year not 2011-2018.
Should I be worried about this?
Also How much should I be spending on repairs for past 5 years?

iTradeShips 10-29-2019 08:11 PM

I wouldn't trust Carfax on maintenance records being anywhere near accurate. A good owner keeps their service records for when they sell the car. There should be nothing to hide. The reality is every machine built requires maintenance and it should be expected that an 8 year old car will require some non-scheduled maintenance.

I have a 2012 Cayenne S Hybrid with 163k miles. I did all services as per the maintenance schedule in the book at the dealer up until 150k miles.

I did a full brake job at 66k miles even though the dealer said I probably could get another 5-10k miles out of them before the wear sensors would trigger. I did a second full brake job at 160k miles. The hybrid system when driven properly really extends brake life, so your results will likely be different. I would ask if the brakes have been done and would suggest getting a measurement on the pads and rotors. Pads and rotors were about $900/axle.

In terms of non-scheduled maintenance, my car has required the following repairs...

Fuel tank level sending unit and new fuel pump at 120k miles. Those repairs set me back about $2400 I believe.
The oil level sensor required replacement at 160k miles, and cost about $480. There was some corrosion on the connector/wiring from the winter road salt exposure on the bottom of the car (northeast part of the country).

My dealer was charging ~$600 for 10k mile service, and quoted me $3600 for 160k mile service which was the impetus to switch to an independent Porsche service specialist for a significant savings. The only other big service item is the supercharger belt service every 60k miles, but that is specific to the hybrid.

I replaced the original factory battery myself at 150k for a cost of $270. Dealer quoted me $850, but said I could wait another 6 months. Porsche parts quoted $450 for battery. VW quoted same battery type/group for Touareg at $260. Interstate was $235. A set of 12 point star bits to remove the driver seat cost $36 on Amazon. Took me under an hour to remove the driver seat and replace the battery. After 7.5 years and 150k miles and a winter season ahead of me, I was more than happy to replace the battery and not risk getting stuck in the cold.

My car burns a quart of oil about every 4k miles. If I do a long highway drive that sees my oil temp hit 215+ then my oil burn accelerates noticeably.

I'm probably going to need my catalytic converters replaced as I am not getting P0420/P0430 Catalyst Below Efficiency error codes on an increasingly frequent basis. Considering using Touareg cats to cut the repair bill by some $1500.

Anyway, hope that helps. Obviously, every car is its own animal.

genebopp 10-30-2019 06:20 PM

It is a great car. Mine has only had a 3 issues. Each about $1000 at the dealer (2014 base). And the car was under warranty for each of those. The thing is Porsche Maintenance is "are you frickn kidding" expensive. Just this week they wanted to do a 6 year maintenance on my car for $1500. It is an oil change, brake flush, air filter, cabin filter and a bunch of inspections. An oil change is 350, brake flush 200 so all the "looking" and 2 $30 filters would have cost $1000. The CRAZY item is the brakes. If you take it to the dealer and say "change them" the bill will be $5000. Mine is a v6, I know the v8 has some crazy prices cooling tube but i dont know the details. Everyone is afraid of the transfer case, that also costs 4-5k. (I dont think there is a cheap way out of that). The car can be "affordable" but it takes planing. google cayenne transfer case symptoms and go drive the car and make sure you dont hear the noises (acorns crunching) people talk about.

Good luck and move slow. There is no such thing as a cheap Porsche.

gw7 10-31-2019 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by genebopp (Post 37310)
It is a great car. Mine has only had a 3 issues. Each about $1000 at the dealer (2014 base). And the car was under warranty for each of those. The thing is Porsche Maintenance is "are you frickn kidding" expensive. Just this week they wanted to do a 6 year maintenance on my car for $1500. It is an oil change, brake flush, air filter, cabin filter and a bunch of inspections. An oil change is 350, brake flush 200 so all the "looking" and 2 $30 filters would have cost $1000. The CRAZY item is the brakes. If you take it to the dealer and say "change them" the bill will be $5000. Mine is a v6, I know the v8 has some crazy prices cooling tube but i dont know the details. Everyone is afraid of the transfer case, that also costs 4-5k. (I dont think there is a cheap way out of that). The car can be "affordable" but it takes planing. google cayenne transfer case symptoms and go drive the car and make sure you dont hear the noises (acorns crunching) people talk about.

Good luck and move slow. There is no such thing as a cheap Porsche.

As already mentioned, crazy maintenance prices. I was quoted $1500 for the 20k oil service. Had an indy do it for less than $300 that includes all the parts from Porsche. Cabin and engine oil filter and brake flush.

Porsche service: I guess someone has to pay for the Starbucks cappuccino. No free lunch.

craig001 01-11-2020 09:27 AM

Good morning all. I am new to this forum as my 2016 eHybird is finally being delivered this AM. But as a long time p-car owner I can tell you that the dealer is pricey. That said much of the work they do is warranted for two years IIRC. The dealer I purchased the Cayenne from did the CPO inspection and refurb. I had my sales rep send me the invoices on the car for my notebook. The 40k service ran a touch over $1400. Oil change, Brake Flush and Fill, filters and the rest. You can find the CPO inspection forms and Maintenance Schedules on-line. Porsche recommends Oil Changes at 5000 mile intervals (at least for the eHybrid and brake flush and fill every two years for all their cars. In my research before pulling the trigger in buying the Cayenne, it was listed as one of the most expensive in 5 year cost of ownership factoring in depreciation, insurance and maintenance. But, if you follow the service schedules you can have the peace of mind that the vehicle will run forever barring the unforseen. I read somewhere that Porsche has the greatest percentage of vehicles still on the road since starting to build cars. The bottom line is you are buying a Porsche and nothing is cheap.


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